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Post by FullFrontalBuddha on Apr 2, 2012 13:45:08 GMT -5
I had been wondering if the season was going to have more episodes since the books get longer as the series goes along, as well as how they'll handle the timing for the overlap of events in different parts of the kingdom. I'm still psyched to see how the season develops though.
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Post by Smaug on Apr 2, 2012 14:27:17 GMT -5
I think they will still have 10 episodes per season but that starting with this season there won't be a correlation to the books. Season 1 = Book 1. Season 2 = Book 2 + smattering of Book 3. Season 3 = Book 2 + Book 3 + smattering of Book 4, etc. There's just too much material to go through and they don't want to catch up to Book 5 and finish that season before there's a Book 6. They'd look bloody stupid.
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Post by JerseyG on Apr 3, 2012 13:44:59 GMT -5
I too was having a hard time keeping track of all the different families, and which family was aligned with which, not to mention where all the members of each family were located.
So, am I right in saying that at the end of the first epi, the Lannister queen had sent men to kill off all of her dead husband's bastard children? So that only Geoffry lived?
And the names! Whew! No one has an easy name! But I do enjoy the show!
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Post by FullFrontalBuddha on Apr 4, 2012 8:44:37 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what the 'purging of the bastards' was about. Since Joffrey isn't actually a 'trueborn son' of Robert's, his claim to the throne isn't valid. I think that the order of succession would still put Stannis, Robert's older brother, next in line for the throne, then his oldest bastard, Gendry (the blacksmith's apprentice who made the bull helmet). Since the Targaryen's consider Robert 'the usurper', from that standpoint, Danerys is a 'truer heir' to the throne. Here's the viewers guide, which shows the various houses, and their aligned houses, so this might help clear up some of the confusion. viewers-guide.hbo.com/season2/
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Post by Lost&Found on Apr 4, 2012 12:54:57 GMT -5
I too was having a hard time keeping track of all the different families, and which family was aligned with which, not to mention where all the members of each family were located. So, am I right in saying that at the end of the first epi, the Lannister queen had sent men to kill off all of her dead husband's bastard children? So that only Geoffry lived? And the names! Whew! No one has an easy name! But I do enjoy the show! It was Joffrey who ordered the killing of all the bastards JG. (different in the books) Joffrey is becoming uncontrollable, even by his own mother. Being the product of Cersei Lannister Baratheon and her twin brother (Jamie Lannister) can screw a boy up for sure. Here is a chart of all the Houses/Families. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_characters_in_Game_of_Thrones
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Post by JerseyG on Apr 5, 2012 6:48:42 GMT -5
Thanks, I'll check it out later. Hubby just read teh second book in the sereis, so it'll be good to pick his brain.
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Post by Smaug on Apr 5, 2012 9:43:16 GMT -5
I must have missed the part in the episode where we saw who ordered the bastards killed. I thought it was Cersei just as in the book.
I think this season will warrant needing a house/people guide because of the impending war of 5 kings.
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Post by Lobot on Apr 6, 2012 8:44:43 GMT -5
They never showed who ordered them killed, we are to assume it is Cersei just as in the books.
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Post by FullFrontalBuddha on Apr 6, 2012 12:43:43 GMT -5
Yeah, Joffrey is a little ****, but I don't think that he's smart enough to think of that, plus he doesn't think that there's any threat to his claim to the throne so he would only do something like that to be malicious, which is plausible.
From Cersei's standpoint, it makes sense since even a bastard has a more legitimate claim to the Iron Throne than her and Jamie's incestuous bastard.
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Post by Lost&Found on Apr 6, 2012 12:46:10 GMT -5
In the final scene before the bastards were killed, Joffrey had read Stannis's letter and was out of control.
His mother Cersei feared him after his warning of never slapping him again and saying it was punishable by death. She was displeased by his actions as she had been against the killing of Ned Stark, despite his mother's objection Joffrey had Ned beheaded. If Joffrey is willing to kill his own mother surely he is okay with killing his bastard siblings.
Game of Thrones is most likely the same as The Walking Dead graphic novels / TV series, the books are some what different then the show.
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